Robin Good on curation
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0:11 - 0:13Hello, this is Howard Rheingold.
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0:16 - 0:19We're talking with Robin Good about curation
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0:19 - 0:26So Robin, I loved your series of articles,
I highly recommend them -
0:26 - 0:31I just wanted to get directly from you
a few thoughts about curation online -
0:31 - 0:35starting with what do you think the
importance in the place of curation is -
0:35 - 0:38today from for anybody who's online?
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0:39 - 0:42(RG) I think I'll you could see it this way:
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0:42 - 0:46we've reached somehow the limit
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0:46 - 0:49of understanding
and making sense of the information -
0:49 - 0:53just by going out to Google, typing out
a query -
0:53 - 0:58and getting a listing of things that could
be relevant to us. -
0:58 - 1:03I think this is like, you know,
having been hungry -
1:03 - 1:07and going to McDonald's, you know:
it's fast food information -
1:07 - 1:12but I want something more like
when I go to a restaurant -
1:12 - 1:16I can choose to have a restaurant tjat has
the foods, the quality, the level -
1:16 - 1:18and the type of customer service,
and so on. -
1:18 - 1:24So I am looking for a new level of
accessing information whereby -
1:24 - 1:27I'm not just trying to list and rank
information -
1:27 - 1:29but I'm trying to make sense
of the information -
1:29 - 1:32this is what people
want more and more -
1:32 - 1:36because one article by itself or a link
or a video -
1:36 - 1:41sometimes is just a little opening hole
to understanding that topic -
1:41 - 1:44while if there was some kind of
intermediate layer -
1:44 - 1:49whether done by an algorithm
or by people -
1:49 - 1:52contributing and working
with an algorithm to collect, -
1:52 - 1:59things that make sense on a certain topic,
I think we would be in a position -
1:59 - 2:04to inform and learn much faster and
much better than we can do now. -
2:05 - 2:09(HR) What qualities do you think
a curator ought to have? -
2:10 - 2:16(RG) Well, he's got to be somewhat of a
very curious person -
2:16 - 2:20and a passionate person in the area
where he wants to curate. -
2:20 - 2:24I don't think you can just go about
curating a topic -
2:24 - 2:28because you wake up and that's
something you want to do -- well, -
2:28 - 2:31you certainly can and gain confidence
with it with time -
2:31 - 2:33but it would be best that you go and
curate something -
2:33 - 2:37that you're already very
passionate about, that you'd be exposed to -
2:37 - 2:40so that you have some sensitivity,
some antennas -
2:40 - 2:45that allow you to understand what is good,
what is better, -
2:45 - 2:48because then it becomes a point of
who are you doing this for. -
2:48 - 2:51Are you just an artis painting
something for yourself -
2:51 - 2:54or are you curating something
for a specific audience, -
2:54 - 2:58trying to intercept a specific need and
resolve it -
2:58 - 3:01with that channel of information?
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3:01 - 3:06So I would think that knowing the audience
and being an expert on the topic -
3:06 - 3:12helps someone curate whatever type of
information items he has at his disposal. -
3:12 - 3:15That, I think, are the key elements.
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3:15 - 3:20Then you you gotta be very transparent
and give full credit -
3:20 - 3:22to whoever you are gathering in
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3:22 - 3:26and expose actually the best qualities
of these sources and people -
3:26 - 3:28and add something of your own, that is,
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3:29 - 3:34the ultimate quality of the curator
is like the one for a DJ. -
3:34 - 3:39I mean, what's the difference between
putting a mixed tape and a live DJ? -
3:39 - 3:43I think those same qualities apply
somewhat to a content curator: //// -
3:43 - 3:47that is the ability to listen closely to
what I of volumes at the moment he's -
3:47 - 3:48serving
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3:48 - 3:53and and providing a context so that the
type of information ease or she's -
3:53 - 3:53collecting
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3:53 - 3:57make sense to them so you may have to
change titles may take -
3:57 - 4:01change descriptions images order how he
just oppose things -
4:01 - 4:06but you have to customize the flow for
that purpose the man -
4:06 - 4:11public you're doing that for Jordan who
who you are. should come -
4:11 - 4:14come through just to some degree your
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4:14 - 4:18your sensibility and your your point of
view aren't you -
4:18 - 4:21not be completely suppressed when you're
your jury -
4:21 - 4:26they may be different instances any
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4:26 - 4:29situations business why is
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4:29 - 4:34a a sure research and information
activities -
4:34 - 4:39how he may vary our I wouldn't be so
sure that all the time you'd have to -
4:39 - 4:39bring
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4:39 - 4:43out your personality but that
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4:43 - 4:47there is no way that you can not somehow
stand in some position -
4:47 - 4:51cell them would be a generic position it
may be a bit more -
4:51 - 4:55I def I'm positions for those who have
had it all to take political stances or -
4:55 - 4:57research things where their
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4:57 - 5:01opal's Inc views but again there you may
be a great reader by just sending out -
5:01 - 5:03for your position
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5:03 - 5:06or maybe even a better curator by
creating -
5:06 - 5:10all the positions that out there and
allowing people to discover which ones -
5:10 - 5:14it's best for their money both of them
are valid to me -
5:14 - 5:18are a woman what is your advice to do to
people about how to go about this and be -
5:18 - 5:22I know %um a very detailed workflow you
just -
5:22 - 5:25someone wants to go ahead and start
curating in the butt -
5:25 - 5:29a passion for subject in some knowledge
about it would out -
5:29 - 5:32how they go about
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5:32 - 5:35the first thing you want to do is to
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5:35 - 5:38collect your so say risk your
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5:38 - 5:42the places where you're going to gather
that information you wanna start from -
5:42 - 5:45some basis at these may be some blogs
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5:45 - 5:48I some video channels says some
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5:48 - 5:51tweet their personalities fun pages
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5:51 - 5:54anything especially that he's capable of
producing -
5:54 - 5:58on RSS feed in is very useful for
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5:58 - 6:01cue Radian creating channels on the
information dedicated to a specific -
6:01 - 6:03topic
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6:03 - 6:07you you want them to become familiar
with something that the ski -
6:07 - 6:11a and technically beat for it was
difficult to understand is what I call a -
6:11 - 6:16persistent search that is the ability to
set out a search for a topic -
6:16 - 6:20and be alerted any time something comes
up so that you can discover -
6:20 - 6:24new things but you can discover also
news sources for information that you -
6:24 - 6:27may not be aware of
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6:27 - 6:32eddie Van Ness when you bring together
different sources -
6:32 - 6:35ones you know that once you're going to
discover gradually -
6:35 - 6:39it the core part of your job is
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6:39 - 6:44to select to pick does that really count
in again to customize them -
6:44 - 6:49personalizing for your audience for this
specific communication -
6:49 - 6:52objective yes it out for yourself with
that channel or stream of the -
6:52 - 6:54information you're creating
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6:54 - 7:00so in the job to describe is as simple
as that you you may want and to -
7:00 - 7:04share this information to package it
happened distributed in different ways -
7:04 - 7:05but
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7:05 - 7:09the core elements are basically does
once they're -
7:09 - 7:12so many people then just worry about
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7:12 - 7:17a what is the tool that can do all the
stuff in a simple way without needing me -
7:17 - 7:20to know HTML RSS tags at
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7:20 - 7:24persistent searches and so on so let me
get a right to that -
7:24 - 7:28and dat is if I were to advise
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7:28 - 7:32a tool that I am NOT associated with
commercially they think helps anyone -
7:32 - 7:33who's in all this
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7:33 - 7:36to get good grapes all what
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7:36 - 7:40curating information can do when I can
be done -
7:40 - 7:43is the one you're using yourself since a
few days and that's cool beat -
7:43 - 7:47as see okie .it
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7:47 - 7:51that's just bury simple to use free tool
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7:51 - 7:55that allows you to aggregate fielder's
church put together information even -
7:55 - 7:57layout and publish it
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7:57 - 8:00within a workflow that is extremely easy
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8:00 - 8:03an almost intuitive to pick up
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8:03 - 8:06and %uh I also likes kinda the community
feature a Scooby -
8:06 - 8:10im at the am there are people can cook
can -
8:10 - 8:14recommend sources to you and then you
have a stream sources -
8:14 - 8:17besides the ones that you gone out and
and found -
8:17 - 8:21that you can go through and you can
either I'm use them -
8:21 - 8:24you can discard them or you can say and
when used as source anymore so -
8:24 - 8:28use dream become smarter as you as you
you -
8:28 - 8:32mercury did is a tool I like a lot too
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8:32 - 8:36yes but there are actually very many
tula in de- -
8:36 - 8:40if you recall on 2005 ahead
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8:40 - 8:45what was the did montel the ID March or
April I was in San Francisco with you on -
8:45 - 8:49mountain time of bias we were talking
for the first time in that beautiful -
8:49 - 8:54scenery aboul what we discussed in now
that he's news Gration -
8:54 - 8:59and you with leukemia me and wondering
where their -
8:59 - 9:03that made any sense at I'm so glad that
that this time has passed and it's -
9:03 - 9:05become a reality I was
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9:05 - 9:09Solex I did last year and in the last
few months where -
9:09 - 9:14about sixty Diff'rent corporation
content curation tools have come out -
9:14 - 9:15that created that
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9:15 - 9:19at map you've probably seen which update
every weekend -
9:19 - 9:22and what is surprising ease now all
these different -
9:22 - 9:25areas for content curation because we
study -
9:25 - 9:31RSS curating content in news creating
news Raiders as they call them specific -
9:31 - 9:32thematic channels but
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9:32 - 9:35now there's a universe of other
possibilities that is -
9:35 - 9:39that is DVD a curation they resell
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9:39 - 9:42product curation these fashion duration
which is -
9:42 - 9:46fantastic go in CT said it's called
police for -
9:46 - 9:50PE ow.ly voor E
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9:50 - 9:54and see what people can do to a team
together different fashion elements like -
9:54 - 9:56shoes & jewelry
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9:56 - 10:00and attic gadgets and create day who
radiate -
10:00 - 10:06sets said that it really a interesting
and visually appealing -
10:06 - 10:11you so I think the horizon easy and
understanding that basically anything -
10:11 - 10:15can be curated doesn't have to be on the
news you can create stuff that -
10:15 - 10:18doesn't be doesn't have to be connected
tweet their -
10:18 - 10:22or staff detachments right at this
moment me -
10:22 - 10:25even collecting and curating what he's
out there for the past -
10:25 - 10:30I we've got into the DL situation from
the beginning until now -
10:30 - 10:34it's something useful and I think that
direction of the future -
10:34 - 10:37ease if not for Google for us to create
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10:37 - 10:42an alternative titles Google where we
can cooperatively -
10:42 - 10:46curating information that is out there
think for a moment -
10:46 - 10:53if instead of depending of secret
algorithms to decide for us -
10:53 - 10:58what is relevant we could choose
individually each one of us -
10:58 - 11:01we charge a ranking elements we want to
use -
11:01 - 11:05or tap into your lines and the one of my
friend and the other friend -
11:05 - 11:08and create our own eco-system I'll
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11:08 - 11:13but she rated algorithm sir curated
collections have information on how to -
11:13 - 11:15make sense of reality
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11:15 - 11:20instead of depending of somebody or
depends on profits and as clues -
11:20 - 11:24is clue simply on its own earnings to
decide what's best for us and that's -
11:24 - 11:30absurd for me because the world s now
lives in an economy the information we -
11:30 - 11:32depend so much I needed
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11:32 - 11:35it is not just a matter of doing a
business online it's a matter -
11:35 - 11:40of allow each I each one of us like to
breathe get water -
11:40 - 11:44to be able to access information and
make some good use of it -
11:44 - 11:49I don't know it and it and agree with
these are not but to me it's a planetary -
11:49 - 11:52question that two people should start to
addressing -
11:52 - 11:57yes that's why I think it a a
fundamental literacy about duration is -
11:57 - 11:59something that everybody ought to know
about it min -
11:59 - 12:02not just for specialists just like there
are -
12:02 - 12:07our web sites did get a lot of traffic
there are too many many many web sites -
12:07 - 12:11that may not get the huge amount of
traffic but we wouldn't have the really -
12:11 - 12:12rich
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12:12 - 12:15eco-system online if we didn't have so
many -
12:15 - 12:20contributors so I I really like your
division which YouTube resent to -
12:20 - 12:24so enthusiastically in passionately I'm
I really population of -
12:24 - 12:28a few readers that its it's not just for
the individuals is further -
12:28 - 12:32the whole system I'm make it much much
richer -
12:32 - 12:37then than it is already yeah we want to
have different points of view all week -
12:37 - 12:38dust that mean
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12:38 - 12:41as should you formation ranking be
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12:41 - 12:45I on-demand fundamentalist religion
because -
12:45 - 12:50what is that I mean if there is one
entity that secretly knows what is true -
12:50 - 12:51or not
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12:51 - 12:55isn't that religion so I don't want to
depend on some religious organization to -
12:55 - 12:56the sale
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12:56 - 13:00what's out there and I want to be able
to tap on different points of views that -
13:00 - 13:02want to be able to contribute
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13:02 - 13:0612 other people understand what I have
discovered and the system we have now -
13:06 - 13:11does not allow me to do this so more and
more i'm looking for people can be -
13:11 - 13:16gateways to the information they need
India's must be trusted people -
13:16 - 13:19so we need out a Google love the people
for the people -
13:19 - 13:25I'm not me %uh individual curator's
doing this for ourselves that's what we -
13:25 - 13:26need yes
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13:26 - 13:29this is wonderful thank you so much and
and thank you for your wonderful -
13:29 - 13:32hospitality in Rome I will never forget
it -
13:32 - 13:35and and hope to see you there again soon
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13:35 - 13:39all right thank you I had my share my
mind get it -
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- Title:
- Robin Good on curation
- Description:
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In interview Robin Good, that master of new media (http://masternewmedia.org) about curation -- what it is, what it requires, why it's important, how to do it.
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