Will Online Learning Engage You More? Teppo Jouttenus and Victor Shnayder at TEDxBeaconStreet
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0:15 - 0:19Who here went to college?
Raise your hands. -
0:19 - 0:21I did too.
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0:21 - 0:24I got to spend four years
on this beautiful campus. -
0:25 - 0:28I learnt a lot about computer science
from my classes -
0:28 - 0:31and even more about life
from my friends. -
0:32 - 0:36I also developed
a lifelong love of orange and black. -
0:36 - 0:38(Laughter)
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0:38 - 0:41This is Teppo's son.
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0:41 - 0:43He recently learnt to walk
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0:43 - 0:46and even though Teppo
doesn't believe me when I tell him this, -
0:46 - 0:48he's going to be walking off
to college pretty soon. -
0:48 - 0:51So, Teppo. How do you think
your son's college experience -
0:51 - 0:54is going to be, compared to ours?
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0:54 - 0:57Teppo Jouttenus: I must admit
that I don't quite know. -
0:57 - 0:59I have more questions than answers
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0:59 - 1:02when I think about how will
education be 20 years from now, -
1:02 - 1:04both here in the US
and around the world. -
1:05 - 1:08But I do know that some things
must change, -
1:08 - 1:09and here are four:
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1:09 - 1:11education must get better.
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1:11 - 1:14Too many people enter college
unprepared to learn -
1:14 - 1:18and leave unprepared to get
a good job or be good citizens. -
1:18 - 1:21One scary statistic
from a recent study -
1:21 - 1:26is that 36% of students
across a range of universities -
1:26 - 1:29made no significant improvement
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1:29 - 1:31in their critical thinking, reasoning,
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1:31 - 1:33and writing skills
in four years of college. -
1:34 - 1:36We can do better than that.
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1:36 - 1:38VS: Education must get cheaper.
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1:39 - 1:42If it doesn't, then billions of people
around the world -
1:42 - 1:44who needs to be educated
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1:44 - 1:46are not going to get access
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1:46 - 1:48to the high quality education
they need. -
1:48 - 1:49Just here in the US,
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1:49 - 1:52there is over a trillion dollars
of student debt. -
1:52 - 1:54Anyone here still have student loans?
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1:57 - 2:00TJ: Education must be able
to adapt faster. -
2:01 - 2:02Anyone's college or university
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2:02 - 2:07were they specifically good
at making quick decisions, -
2:07 - 2:09adapting to change? No.
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2:09 - 2:11There are benefits
to keeping a steady course -
2:11 - 2:13but sometimes changing education
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2:13 - 2:15feels like taking a herd of elephants
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2:15 - 2:17and trying to get them
to change directions. -
2:17 - 2:20VS: And finally,
education has to last longer. -
2:20 - 2:22It may actually turn out to be
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2:22 - 2:24that four years of college
is too much -
2:24 - 2:27but four years of education
is definitely not enough -
2:27 - 2:29in today's quickly changing world.
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2:29 - 2:31So let's review where we are starting,
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2:31 - 2:32with traditional education first.
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2:33 - 2:35TJ: The traditional education bundle
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2:35 - 2:37has elements that are both non academic
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2:37 - 2:40like housing and football teams,
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2:40 - 2:42and academic,
like professors and classes, -
2:42 - 2:44and it comes with a hefty price tag.
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2:44 - 2:48There is a lot of experimentation
going on right now -
2:48 - 2:51in ways of unbundling education.
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2:51 - 2:54Taking these elements
in different combinations -
2:54 - 2:56to meet various different needs.
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2:56 - 2:58One interesting example is
taking online classes -
2:58 - 3:01without the football teams
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3:01 - 3:03and having them for free.
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3:03 - 3:06This obviously will not solve
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3:06 - 3:09all the challenges
we have in education -
3:09 - 3:11but it raises
some interesting questions -
3:11 - 3:15that are dear to our heart,
because we work at edX -
3:15 - 3:19and there we publish courses
from top universities -
3:19 - 3:22freely available to anyone
with an Internet connection. -
3:23 - 3:28So, Victor, how does this differ
from the standard education bundle? -
3:28 - 3:32VS: Sure. Before I worked at edX,
I spent several years -
3:32 - 3:35helping create and teach
classes at Harvard. -
3:35 - 3:37There we had a pretty standard model.
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3:37 - 3:39We had a professor that gives lectures.
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3:39 - 3:42I spent hundreds of hours
creating problems -
3:42 - 3:44and then grading then
when they were submitted. -
3:44 - 3:48Of course, students came
to my section and did problems. -
3:49 - 3:51Teppo has worked a lot
with creating edX classes -
3:51 - 3:54so tell us about one of those
and we will see how it differs. -
3:54 - 3:56TJ: Sure. As a program manager,
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3:56 - 3:59my job is to work with professors
and their teams, -
3:59 - 4:01and find the various different
components that come together -
4:01 - 4:04to do the best possible
online class that we can. -
4:05 - 4:09For one MIT course, we started
with the legendary Physics professor, -
4:09 - 4:10Walter Lewin,
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4:10 - 4:14added in two other professors,
three lecturers, one postdoc, -
4:15 - 4:21sprinkled into the mix some students,
a program manager, video team, -
4:21 - 4:23software engineers,
and blended it all together -
4:23 - 4:25to create the online version
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4:25 - 4:28of Walter Lewin's
Electricity and Magnetism. -
4:28 - 4:31And Victor was one
of the software engineers -
4:31 - 4:33that built the platform
that makes all of this possible. -
4:33 - 4:36Do you want to talk about
some of the elements of the class? -
4:36 - 4:39VS: Sure. So, here are
some of the screens in the class. -
4:39 - 4:43We have Walter Lewin,
or a video of Walter Lewin, -
4:43 - 4:46describing the science
behind Van der Graaf generators. -
4:46 - 4:50It's immediately followed by
problems like this one asking you, -
4:50 - 4:52did you actually understand
what you just saw? -
4:52 - 4:55Where students get incentive back.
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4:55 - 4:57We have interactive simulations
like this one, -
4:57 - 4:59written specifically for this class,
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4:59 - 5:05that shows how electric fields change
as charged particles move in them. -
5:05 - 5:06And finally we have a discussion forum
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5:06 - 5:08where students from all over the world
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5:08 - 5:12can connect and discuss the material
and help each other learn. -
5:12 - 5:14So, for example, in this particular screen
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5:14 - 5:17one of the students posted
a relevant video from Youtube -
5:17 - 5:21that illustrates some of the concepts
discussed in the class, -
5:21 - 5:24sparking a discussion
where people were asking -
5:24 - 5:26why this is working,
what is going on. -
5:26 - 5:30So together, compared to
the experience I had at Harvard, -
5:30 - 5:32this is somewhat different.
We get this bundle, -
5:32 - 5:36we lose that in-person connection
that I had with my students in section -
5:36 - 5:39but we get this global forum
and global connections, -
5:39 - 5:41and we get instant feedback,
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5:41 - 5:42which is something that
was much harder -
5:42 - 5:44to do in a traditional model.
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5:44 - 5:47So let's look at the edX class
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5:47 - 5:49with the four aspects we said before.
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5:50 - 5:54TJ: One way that the edX class
is pedagogically better -
5:54 - 5:56than traditional lecturing is because
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5:56 - 5:57the lecture is split into smalls snippets
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5:57 - 5:59and you get instant feedback,
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5:59 - 6:01so there is more engagement
with the student. -
6:02 - 6:04It is freely available
for the whole world -
6:04 - 6:06and the team can adapt faster
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6:06 - 6:08because they don't have
to spend any energy -
6:08 - 6:11recreating the parts that they loved.
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6:11 - 6:14Instead, they can focus
on improving the parts -
6:14 - 6:15that they weren't happy with.
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6:15 - 6:19And it opens up new possibilities
for lifelong learning. -
6:19 - 6:23Our colleague Ruth's father is 89
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6:23 - 6:26and he is still actively
taking edX classes. -
6:27 - 6:31VS: Of course, not everything
about the online class is better. -
6:32 - 6:35In particular, it costs a lot
to create such a class, -
6:35 - 6:37and, as I mentioned earlier,
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6:37 - 6:40we really lose that in-person connection
between teacher and student -
6:40 - 6:42that can be so important in some cases
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6:42 - 6:47to keep students motivated
and to help them get through the material. -
6:47 - 6:49But one of the great things is,
once we have created this class, -
6:49 - 6:51we can call up yet another bundle.
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6:51 - 6:53We are already trying things like this,
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6:53 - 6:55where we take Walter Lewin's course,
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6:55 - 6:59and we bring it to a campus,
or a thousand campuses, -
6:59 - 7:01and you can have the professor there
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7:01 - 7:03instead of having to spend
those hundred of hours -
7:03 - 7:06creating materials that we already have,
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7:06 - 7:08guide their students through it,
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7:08 - 7:12and really focus on addressing
the individual needs that they have -
7:12 - 7:14and not just incorporating the basics.
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7:16 - 7:18This is just one combination
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7:18 - 7:20and the future of education
is going to involve -
7:20 - 7:23lots of different experiments
and combinations. -
7:23 - 7:25Only some of which
will involve online learning. -
7:25 - 7:27That should bring us to...
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7:28 - 7:29TJ: Blenders.
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7:30 - 7:32Or how do we most effectively
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7:32 - 7:36blend online and face-to-face
elements in education, -
7:36 - 7:40and how do we create
the most effective education bundles -
7:40 - 7:41to meet the needs of different learners
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7:41 - 7:43in different kind of circumstances.
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7:43 - 7:46And this is where
we need your help. -
7:46 - 7:49As we and others
continue to experiment -
7:49 - 7:53we want you to try out
the different bundles -
7:53 - 7:54and share what works well.
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7:54 - 7:58So when you come across
a delicious educational smoothie... -
7:58 - 8:00(Laughter)
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8:00 - 8:03... tell your teachers,
tell your friends, tell your school, -
8:03 - 8:07because the more demand there is
for awesome learning experiences -
8:07 - 8:12the quicker the best educational bundles
become the new standard. -
8:13 - 8:16VS: Of course, it's important to remember
some of these educational smoothies -
8:16 - 8:19are going to have actual
snow and ice, not computers. -
8:19 - 8:23For example, this was my classroom
on a course I took several years ago -
8:23 - 8:25with the National
Outdoor Leadership School. -
8:25 - 8:29We spent several weeks
trekking through the mountains, -
8:29 - 8:31learning about leadership and teaching,
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8:31 - 8:35and trying to find our way
through the woods, and not get too lost. -
8:35 - 8:36I learnt a lot from this course.
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8:36 - 8:40I find myself using things I learnt here
pretty much every single day, -
8:40 - 8:43which is not something I can say
from most of my college classes. -
8:45 - 8:48This was one of the high points
of the trip. -
8:48 - 8:50We were on top of a mountain
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8:50 - 8:53and could really see
the landscape in front of us, -
8:53 - 8:55and sort of gather a glimpse
of where we were headed. -
8:55 - 9:00I find that working in the everchanging
landscape of education today -
9:00 - 9:01is sometimes like this,
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9:01 - 9:04where it feels like we really see
what is going on -
9:04 - 9:07and we know where we are going,
but more often it feels like this, -
9:07 - 9:09which is an afternoon on the trip,
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9:09 - 9:12trying to find camp
in a half frozen swamp -
9:12 - 9:13in the middle of a snowstorm.
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9:13 - 9:15But we did it,
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9:15 - 9:17and one of the things
I learnt from this trip, -
9:17 - 9:19and from this course was
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9:19 - 9:21how important it is
to really embrace the uncertainty -
9:21 - 9:25when you are exploring a new territory
that you don't know already. -
9:25 - 9:27And I think that
if we do that in education -
9:27 - 9:30we will be able to discover
better combinations -
9:30 - 9:34that more succesfully help people
teach and help people learn. -
9:36 - 9:39We hope that we've managed
to convince you -
9:39 - 9:41that the future of education is exciting
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9:41 - 9:44and that perhaps
you are a little nervous about it. -
9:44 - 9:46And we hope we help.
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9:46 - 9:51Join in discussion around this,
try new things, and share what works. -
9:52 - 9:55TJ: I don't know
if my son's college bundle -
9:55 - 9:57will include a football team or not.
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9:58 - 10:02But what I do know
is that when we continue, all of us, -
10:02 - 10:06to experiment and share
the best educational bundles -
10:06 - 10:10we can make education better,
cheaper, faster, and longer. -
10:10 - 10:11Thank you.
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10:11 - 10:13(Applause)
- Title:
- Will Online Learning Engage You More? Teppo Jouttenus and Victor Shnayder at TEDxBeaconStreet
- Description:
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Online education opens up possibilities for engaging with a tremendously diverse student body, experimenting with fascinating laboratory tasks, and receiving immediate feedback on your performance. In some respects, such tools can be more effective than traditional schooling. Victor Shnayder and his colleague Teppo Jouttenus will discuss specific examples from edX learners to highlight their successes and explore some directions to improve the power of online education even further.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 10:14