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How to topple a dictator

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    Good afternoon, I'm proud
    to be here at TEDxKrakow.
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    I'll try to speak a little bit today
    about a phenomenon
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    which can, and actually is
    changing the world,
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    and whose name is people power.
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    I'll start with an anecdote,
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    or for those of you
    who are Monty Python lovers,
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    a Monty Python type of sketch.
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    Here it is.
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    It is December 15, 2010.
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    Somebody gives you a bet:
    you will look at a crystal ball,
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    and you will see the future;
    the future will be accurate.
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    But you need to share it with the world.
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    OK, curiosity killed the cat,
    you take the bet,
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    you look at the crystal ball.
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    One hour later, you're sitting
    in a building of the national TV,
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    in a top show, and you tell the story.
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    Before the end of 2011,
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    Ben Ali, and Mubarak,
    and Gaddafi would be down,
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    and prosecuted.
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    Saleh of Yemen and Assad of Syria
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    would be either challenged,
    or already on their knees.
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    Osama bin Laden would be dead,
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    and Ratko Mladic would be in the Hague.
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    Now, the anchor watches you
    with a strange gaze on his face.
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    And then, on top of it you add:
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    "And thousands of young people
    from Athens, Madrid and New York
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    will demonstrate for social justice,
    claiming they are inspired by Arabs."
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    Next thing you know,
    two guys in white appear,
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    they give you the strange t-shirt,
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    take you to the nearest
    mental institution.
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    So I would like to speak a little bit
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    about the phenomenon which is behind
    what already seems to be
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    a very bad year for bad guys.
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    And this phenomenon
    is called people power.
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    Well, people power
    has been there for a while.
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    It helped Gandhi kick
    the Brits from India,
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    it helped Martin Luther King
    win his historic racial struggle.
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    It helped a local, Lech Walesa,
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    to kick out one million
    Soviet troops from Poland,
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    and in beginning the end
    of the Soviet Union as we know it.
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    So what's new in it?
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    What seems to be very new,
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    which is the idea I would like
    to share with you today,
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    is that there is a set of rules and skills
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    which can be learned and taught
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    in order to perform
    successful nonviolent struggle.
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    If this is true, we can help
    these movements.
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    Well, the first one - analytic skills.
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    I'll try where it all started
    in the Middle East.
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    And for so many years,
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    we were living with a completely wrong
    perception of the Middle East.
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    It was looking like the frozen region.
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    Literally a refrigerator.
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    And there were only
    two types of meal there.
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    Steak, which stands for a Mubarak-Ben Ali
    type of military police dictatorship,
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    or a potato, which stands for
    a Tehran type of theocracies.
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    And everybody was amazed
    when the refrigerator opened,
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    and millions of young,
    mainly secular people
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    stepped out to do the change.
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    Guess what - they didn't watch
    the demographics.
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    What is the average age
    of an Egyptian? 24.
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    How long was Mubarak in power? 31.
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    So, this system was just
    obsolete, they expired.
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    And young people of the Arab world
    have awakened one morning,
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    and understood that power
    lies in their hands.
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    The rest is the year in front of us.
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    And guess what? The same Generation Y,
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    with their rules, with their tools,
    with their games,
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    and with their language,
    which sounds a little bit strange to me.
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    I'm 38 now.
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    And can you look at the age
    of the people on the streets of Europe?
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    It seems that Generation Y is coming.
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    Now, let me set another example.
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    I'm meeting different people
    throughout the world,
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    and they are, you know, academics,
    and professors, and doctors,
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    and they will always talk conditions.
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    They will say: "People power will work
    only if the regime is not too oppressive."
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    They will say: "People power will work,
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    if the annual income of the country
    is between X and Z."
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    They will say: "People power will work
    only if there is a foreign pressure."
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    They will say: "People power
    will work only if there is no oil."
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    And, I mean, there is a set of conditions.
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    Well, the news here
    is that your skills during the conflict
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    seem to be more important
    than the conditions.
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    Namely, the skills of unity, planning,
    and maintaining nonviolent discipline.
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    Let me give you an example.
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    I come from a country called Serbia.
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    It took us 10 years to unite
    18 opposition party leaders,
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    with their big egos,
    behind one single candidate
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    against the Balkan dictator
    Slobodan Milosevic.
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    Guess what? That was
    the day of his defeat.
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    You look at the Egyptians,
    they fight on Tahrir Square,
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    they get rid of their individual symbols,
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    they appear on the street
    only with the flag of Egypt.
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    I will give you a counter-example.
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    You see nine presidential candidates
    running against Lukashenko,
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    you all know the outcome.
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    So unity is a big thing.
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    And this can be achieved.
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    Same with planning.
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    Somebody has lied to you
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    about the successful and spontaneous
    nonviolent revolution.
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    That thing doesn't exist in the world.
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    Whenever you see young people
    in front of the row
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    trying to fraternize
    with the police or military,
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    somebody was thinking about it before.
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    Now, at the end, nonviolent discipline.
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    And this is probably the game-changer.
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    If you maintain nonviolent discipline,
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    you'll exclusively win.
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    You have 100,000 people
    in a nonviolent march,
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    one idiot or agent-provocateur
    throwing a stone.
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    Guess what takes all the cameras.
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    That one guy.
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    One single act of violence
    can literally destroy your movement.
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    Now, let me move to another place.
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    It's the selection
    of strategies and tactics.
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    There are certain rules
    in nonviolent struggle you may follow.
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    First, you start small.
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    Second, you pick the battles you can win.
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    It's only 200 of us in this room.
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    We won't call for the march of a million.
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    But what if we organized the spraying
    of graffiti throughout the night,
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    all over Krakow.
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    The city will know.
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    So, we pick tactics
    accommodated to the event,
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    especially this thing we call
    the small tactics of dispersion.
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    They're very useful in violent oppression.
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    We are actually witnessing the picture
    of one of the best tactics ever used.
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    It was on Tahrir square,
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    where the international community
    was constantly frightened
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    that, you know, the Islamists
    will overtake the revolution.
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    What they organized --
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    Christians protecting Muslims
    where they are praying,
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    a Coptic wedding cheered
    by thousands of Muslims,
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    the world has just changed the picture,
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    but somebody was thinking
    about this previously.
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    So there are so many things you can do
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    instead of getting into one place,
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    shouting, and you know, showing off
    in front of the security forces.
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    Now, there is also another
    very important dynamic.
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    And this is a dynamic
    that analysts normally don't see.
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    This is the dynamic between
    fear and apathy on the one side,
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    and enthusiasm and humor on another side.
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    So, it works like in a video game.
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    You have the fear high,
    you have status quo.
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    You have the enthusiasm higher,
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    you see the fear is starting to melt.
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    Day two, you see people
    running towards the police
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    instead of from the police, in Egypt.
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    You can tell that something
    is happening there.
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    And then, it's about the humor.
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    Humor is such a powerful game-changer,
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    and of course, it was very big in Poland.
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    You know, we were just a small group
    of crazy students in Serbia
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    when we made this big skit.
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    We put the big petrol barrel
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    with a portrait of Mr. President on it,
    in the middle of the Main Street.
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    There was a hole in the top.
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    So you could literally come,
    put a coin in,
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    get a baseball bat, and hit his face.
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    Sounds loud.
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    And within minutes,
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    we were sitting in a nearby café
    having coffee,
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    and there was a queue of people
    waiting to do this lovely thing.
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    Well, that's just
    the beginning of the show.
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    The real show starts
    when the police appears.
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    (Laughter)
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    "What will they do?"
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    Arrest us? We were nowhere to be seen.
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    We were like three blocks away,
    observing it from our espresso bar.
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    Arrest the shoppers, with kids?
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    Doesn't make sense.
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    Of course, you could bet,
    they did the most stupid thing.
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    They arrested the barrel.
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    And now, the picture
    of the smashed face on the barrel,
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    with the policemen
    dragging it to the police car,
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    that was the best day
    for newspaper photographers
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    that they will ever have.
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    So, I mean, these are
    the things you can do.
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    And you can always use humor.
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    There is also one big thing about humor,
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    it really hurts.
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    Because these guys really are
    taking themselves too seriously.
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    When you start to mock them, it hurts.
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    Now, everybody is talking
    about His Majesty, the Internet,
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    and it is also a very useful skill.
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    But don't rush to label things
    like "a Facebook Revolution,"
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    "Twitter Revolution."
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    Don't mix the tools
    with the substance.
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    It is true that the Internet
    and the new media are very useful
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    in making things faster and cheaper.
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    They also make it a bit safer
    for the participants,
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    because they give partial anonymity.
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    We're watching the great example
    of something else the Internet can do.
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    It can put the price tag
    of state-sponsored violence
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    over a nonviolent protester.
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    This is the famous group
    "We are all Khaled Said,"
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    made by Wael Ghonim
    in Egypt, and his friend.
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    This is the mutilated face of the guy
    who was beaten by the police.
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    This is how he became known to the public,
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    and this is what probably became
    the straw that broke the camel's back.
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    But here is also the bad news.
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    The nonviolent struggle is won
    in the real world, in the streets.
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    You will never change
    your society towards democracy,
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    or, you know, the economy,
    if you sit down and click.
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    There are risks to be taken,
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    and there are living people
    who are winning the struggle.
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    Well, the million-dollar question.
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    What will happen in the Arab world?
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    And though young people
    from the Arab world
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    were pretty successful
    in bringing down three dictators,
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    shaking the region,
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    kind of persuading the clever kings
    from Jordan and Morocco
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    to do substantial reforms,
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    it is yet to be seen
    what will be the outcome.
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    Whether the Egyptians and Tunisians
    will make it through the transition,
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    or this will end in bloody
    ethnic and religious conflicts,
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    whether the Syrians
    will maintain nonviolent discipline,
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    faced with a brutal daily violence
    which kills thousands already,
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    or they will slip into violent struggle
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    and make ugly civil war.
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    Will these revolutions be pushed
    through the transitions and democracy
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    or be overtaken by the military
    or extremists of all kinds?
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    We cannot tell.
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    The same works for the Western sector,
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    where you can see
    all these excited young people
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    protesting around the world,
    occupying this, occupying that.
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    Are they going to become the world wave?
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    Are they going to find their skills,
    their enthusiasm, and their strategy
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    to find what they really want
    and push for the reform,
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    or will they just stay complaining
    about the endless list
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    of the things they hate?
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    This is the difference
    between the two paths.
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    Now, what do the statistics have?
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    My friend Maria Stephan's book
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    talks a lot about violent
    and nonviolent struggle,
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    and there are some shocking data.
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    If you look at the last 35 years
    and different social transitions,
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    from dictatorship to democracy,
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    you will see that,
    out of 67 different cases,
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    in 50 of these cases
    it was nonviolent struggle
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    which was the key power.
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    This is one more reason
    to look at this phenomenon,
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    this is one more reason
    to look at Generation Y.
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    Enough for me to give them credit,
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    and hope that they will find their skills
    and their courage
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    to use nonviolent struggle
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    and thus fix at least a part of the mess
    our generation is making in this world.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
How to topple a dictator
Speaker:
Srdja Popovic
Description:

2011 was a year of extraordinary people-powered resistance, starting with Arab Spring and spreading across the world. How did this resistance work so well? Srdja Popovic (who led the nonviolent movement that took down Milosevic in Serbia in 2000) lays out the plans, skills and tools each movement needs -- from nonviolent tactics to a sense of humor.
(Filmed at TEDxKrakow.)

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Video Language:
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Duration:
12:02

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