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Andy Carvin: How Wide's the Digital Divide? 2006

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    (Andy Carvin) Good morning.
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    For a couple of moments there I really had no idea what Joey was talking about (laughter)
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    So, he'd ask me a few minutes ago to critique his introductory remarks
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    and, you know, all I did was this (laughter)
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    For those of you who are listening to the podcast of that,
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    I was doing a "We're not worthy" kind of thing on the ground. (laughter)
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    Yes, I am recording this.
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    For those of you who are contemplating taking notes fret not.
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    You really don't have to because the presentation, this powerpoint,
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    is already on my blog, andycarvin.com .
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    It's been released on what's called a Creative Commons license
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    and I'll talk about that later,
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    but that basically means you can use it almost any way you want.
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    And with this little digital recorder I have here I'm going to be taping my presentation
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    and making it available as a podcast on my blog as well.
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    So, if you're really obsessed about taking notes, you know, have at it.
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    But if you're on the fence about it like I am about these kinds of things,
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    don't worry about it, hang back and instead it would be better for you
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    to be thinking about some really good questions to throw me by the end of this presentation.
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    So, first of all what exactly is the Digital Divide?
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    The term has been around for at least 10 years, now,
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    probably since around 1992, 1993.
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    And it often gets used in very different ways.
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    In fact, one of the very first uses of the Digital Divide I ever heard
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    was on a Greatful Dead's discussion list in the early 90's,
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    where a Dead Head was describing the challenges he had
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    recording Greateful Dead's concerts,
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    and he was about to make the leap from analog recording to digital recording
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    and so, he was asking for assistance in bridging this digital divide.
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    He could easily have been the one to claim to coin it
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    but thankfully, the term has evolved since then to mean a variety of things.
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    But when I talk about the digital divide, I try to summarize it in three very basic ways.
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    In the most basic sense, it's the gap that exists between populations
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    in terms of who has access to ICTs, or Information and Communication Technologies,
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    and who doesn't.
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    So, that includes the internet, computers and the like.
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    For a long time, when people talked about the digital divide, the definition stopped there.
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    They would just look at who had internet access at home,
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    who had access at school,
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    and that was only marginally useful, in my perspective.
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    It -- I think it became much more important to treat also as equal factors
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    access to literacy skills and the ability to use ICTs effectively,
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    because if every person on the globe had internet access tomorrow,
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    if they weren't functionally literate, if they weren't IT-literate,
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    then their internet access would be rather meaningless to them.
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    Similarly, you'll need to have access to high-quality, robust and diverse content,
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    and the ability and the skills to create content yourselves.
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    And we'll talk a bit more about that later.
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    Sometimes these three ideas have been described as the ABC's of the digital divide:
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    Access, Basic skills and Content.
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    Now where does this term come from? (laughter)
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    It's a tough question and people have been tossing around the question
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    for a very long time.
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    Sometimes people are giving credit to Al Gore.
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    He may not have invented the Information Superhighway,
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    he did invent the term, though, interestingly:
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    he's been using the term Information Superhighway since the late 70's
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    and some have said that he tried claiming to have invented the internet.
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    Well, we'll leave that for historians to judge, but I think we all know better.
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    Similarly, occasionally people attribute Bill Gates as coining the term.
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    He didn't.
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    Perhaps it was some anonymous beltway bureaucrat in Washington.
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    The fact of the matter is, we simply don't know.
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    The term has been around since, at least, the early 90's.
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    I think the first time I've heard it was around 1993, from a -- early 1994 --
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    from a K-12 educator named Bonnie Bracey
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    who was working on an advisory commission that President Clinton had organized
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    about the information infrastructure, as this internet and everything else was called back then.
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    But the term had been around even prior to that.
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    When you ask people who are often credited with coining the term,
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    they always pass the buck and say:
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    "No, it wasn't me, I got it from someone else, but frankly I don't remember whom."
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    And so, in fact I think it is quite likely that the term may have been indeed created
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    by some anonymous betlway bureaucrat, or an anonymous educator,
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    or someone else who started using it in their professional networks,
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    online networks, and social networks.
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    And by the mid-1990's, it had become a term of art to describe this gap between the have's and the have-not's.
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    And I should also add that the have's and the have-not's, that term,
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    has actually been around much, much longer than the term digital divide.
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    In fact, it was coined by Cervantes.
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    If you go and read Don Quixote, you'll see that Sancho Panza describes his grandmother
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    as coming from a family who represented the have's rather than the haven't's.
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    And so, that term has been used to describe equity issues and poverty ever since.
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    So, the digital divide has been a policy issue at one level or another for over 10 years, now.
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    Much of it began in '93,
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    when President Clinton created this Advisory Council I mentioned a few minutes ago,
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    this National Information Infrastructure Advisory Council.
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    Basically, they were given the task to take a look at this Information Superhighway,
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    figure out where it was going, whether it was going to leave the country,
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    and what it was going to mean if some people had access to it and some people didn't.
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    By 1994, the Commerce Department was releasing a report, which eventually became a series of reports,
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    known as Falling through the Net,
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    and this became essentially a national benchmark on the digital divide.
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    And initially, they were just looking at who had telephone access and who had computer access
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    and who didn't.
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    But in the years since then it evolved to a much deeper look
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    at the state of the digital divide in America. (6:22)
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    As the years go by, a variety of things happen.
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    This advisory council recommended that all schools and libraries
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    be wired to the internet.
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    And after the Telecom act of 1996 was passed, that became a reality
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    through the creation of the E-Rate program, which offers government
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    subsidies to cover the cost of intenet access at schools, libraries, and public health institutions.
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    By 1999, the digital divide policy debate had reached a fever-pitch
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    in which it was often in the national headlines, it was being discussed by
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    government leaders and business leaders all over the country.
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    And by December of that year, President Clinton hosted a national digital divide summit.
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    Which as it turns out is the first and only national level government summit on the digital divide.
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    It was a great time to be working in this field.
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    It was a bipartisan, or at least a non-partisan issue.
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    And essentially we were all engaging in a big retorical policy group hug.
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    It was a good time to be doing this.
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    But it's been rough over the last few years.
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    In many ways, some people have pointed specifically to September 11
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    as being the watershed moment for the digital divide,
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    because resources started going in other directions -- going to international policy issues.
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    Similarly at that time, No Child Left Behind was being developed,
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    and that changed many of the policy goals, specificaly in K-12 education.
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    At the same time, unfortunately, there was also a change in political climate,
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    in the sense that when you talked about certain issues the terms you would use
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    would often have a bent to them.
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    The rhetoric would often be seen as left or right.
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    In the case of the term 'digital divide', it got associated with Clinton and Gore
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    because they were very vocal about it.
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    And despite the fact that you had politcians from both sides
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    of the political spectrum supporting digital divide initiatives,
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    it started being discussed in a more partisan manner.
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    And it had started splitting coalitions that had once existed.
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    As time goes by we found ourselves in a situation where there was being
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    less emphasis being pitted at a national level on bridging the digital divide,
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    and instead it was being made a local issue, a state issue,
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    and issue for civil society in the private sector to deal with.
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    And so slowly but surely, the momentum in the national level leadership
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    that once existed on bridging the digital divide started splitting off
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    and going on in its own directions.
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    Meanwhie though, while the digital divide has become less of an issue here,
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    it's become a huge issue in pretty much every place on the planet.
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    In the late '90s, the U.N. decided to host a series of presidential-level world summits
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    on internet policy called the World Summit on the Information Society,
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    the first of which took place in 2003, and then the next one two years later
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    just in the past November in Tunisia.
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    And this was the first times that world leaders gathered
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    to discuss the digital divide and strategies for bridging it.
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    And so, while on the one hand you rarely ever hear
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    about the digital divide being discussed in the U.S. media or by U.S. politicians,
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    it's something that you find on a regular basis when you look at media accounts
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    from almost every other country in the world.
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    So this raises the quesion, are we at a point where
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    the digital divide has become a non-issue here in the U.S.?
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    There are some arguments to suggest that maybe it is a non-issue.
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    For example, the Pew Internet and American Life Project in Washington D.C.
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    which is an extraordinary research group that I have immense respect for,
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    and I have been a fan of their work for a very long time...
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    they came out with some startling statistics earlier this year in which they said:
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    60% of blacks, 73% of whites, and 79% of English speaking Latinos go online here in the U.S.
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    This completely defied conventional wisdom on the digital divide.
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    Historically we had always thought of whites as being leaders on the digital divide,
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    with African-Americans coming second and Latinos coming third.
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    But this data was suggesting something else.
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    Meanwhile, almost every single K-12 school in America is online today.
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    Almost every school of higher education is online today.
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    Almost every library is online today.
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    So just from those stats alone it might cause some people to think there is no digital divide.
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    In fact, there was an article in the New York Times just a couple of weeks ago
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    about the digital divide in African-Americans and the report interviewed Magic Johnson,
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    who along with being a basketball star has been a leading community technology activist
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    through his foundation for much of the last ten years,
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    and so when the reporter asked him about the digital divide
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    Magic Johnson responded by saying "what digital divide?"
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    So that raises some interesting questions.
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    When people like Magic Johnson and others, who once were seen as
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    the forefathers of the movement if you will, are beginning to suggest
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    that maybe we really don't have to be worrying about this digital divide any more.
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    But when I look at the issue, I think there are some flaws in these arguments.
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    Not all access is equal.
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    When you look at the data that came from
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    the Pew Internet and American Life project you'll see that they ask the question
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    of whether or not people have gone online.
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    They don't ask how you've gone online, or the qualitative situation
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    you are in while you are going online.
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    There's a big difference between having access somewhere,
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    whether it's at work, or in your community, or at school,
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    verus having continuous access at home.
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    Meanwhile, the Latino data, as I mentioned before,
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    only took a look at English-speaking Latinos.
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    Which is a sizeable part of the Latino population in the U.S., no doubt,
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    but the fact that they didn't factor in those households that don't speak English
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    or don't speak English well, in some ways causes concern for me
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    because these households are some of the least likely housholds to have internet access.
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    And it's really important for us to think about the digital divide
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    as being a home issue and a family issue, because for many people
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    that's where they have an opportunity to be most productive.
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    It's the place where you can work on your own schedule,
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    you're not limited to the infrastructure that exists publicly,
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    so even though 99% of the libraries in America have internet access
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    some libraries are only open one or two days a week,
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    for maybe three or four hours at a time.
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    So even though there is a large internet blanket covering
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    public libraries in America, if you add up the number of hours
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    for many communities, especially low-income communities and rural ones,
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    they simply don't have the capacity at the moment,
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    and don't have the resources to serve those populations that don't have internet access at home.
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    So where do we stand right now?
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    We're running a little behind in terms of having a good national snapshot
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    of the digital divide at home.
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    The Department of Commerce usually does a study every couple of years
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    and we're over-due for one now.
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    So the last one came out in the fall of 2004.
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    So, if you go back almost ten years ago, almost 20% of homes had internet access.
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    But by the time they did the study two years ago, it was around 65%.
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    So I would venture to guess that the access level is probably closer to 70% or even 75% at home.
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    Similarly, that study suggested that there were around 25% of homes that were online.
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    I would assume it's now one-third are now online with broadband.
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    But we're still waiting for the latest data to come in.
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    The digital divide becomes more stark when you break down the numbers
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    on a variety of factors.
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    First here is internet and ethnicity.
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    It's a contrast to what the information coming out of Pew suggested.
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    Here we have white households and Asian-American households
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    being highly online, though I find the Asian data
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    a little misleading because it lumps all Asian communities together
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    and it doesn't differentiate between Japanese-Americans and Korean-Americans
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    and Chinese-Americans who may have been in the country for three, four, five generations
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    and are all middle-class and well-established, versus Asian immigrant populations
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    that may have come over in the last generation, still struggling sometimes with
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    language and literacy issues and are often on the lower end of the income brackets.
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    But the data collects them as one large ethnic group and I think that skews it.
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    African-American households have about 50% access online,
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    and Latinos were behind at about 37%.
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    So that's in stark contrast to what the Pew data was showing.
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    Now if you look at the trends over the last ten years regarding internet and ethnicity,
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    you'll see that in some ways the digital divide has actually widened.
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    If you go back to 1994, there was a much smaller point spread
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    between white households, blacks, and Latinos,
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    versus where it is today.
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    And in fact, at one point Latinos had slightly higher access than African-Americans,
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    but then sometime around 2000 it started to switch and that gap has widened as well.
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    We also have an income digital divide gap,
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    in which households that earn more money are much more likely to be online
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    and those people who live at the poverty level are least likely to be online.
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    That should come as a no-brainer in many ways, it shouldn't be a major surprise.
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    The biggest gap though appears to occur when it comes to education.
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    So if you have a Bachelor's degree or higher, there's a very very high chance,
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    85% chance or higher...that 85% of those households are going to have internet access at home.
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    But meanwhile if you look at households that don't have a high-school diploma,
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    or a GED, at least two years when this data came out it was only 16%.
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    Have those numbers gone up a bit?
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    I'm sure they have somewhat, but as long as people lack
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    a broad range of educational skills to use technology effectively,
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    then it's very unlikely that many of them are going to have internet access in their home.
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    In many ways, we've got a very bizzare situation,
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    what I often call the access paradox.
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    And that is: the more people are online, the worse the digital divide gets.
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    Now, even when I say that it doesn't even feel right,
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    because you think "well, okay if you've got a community
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    where 80-90% of the population is online,
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    you've bridged the digital divide, right?"
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    Well, maybe not. Because we're in a situation now where
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    the vast majority of main-stream, middle-class America is online,
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    whether at home, or somewhere else in the community.
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    Marginalized America continues to be offline in many ways.
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    These include: recent immigrant populations, people with disabilities,
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    people with limited literacy skills, etc etc.
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    And the reason why this has become more of a problem is
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    we've reached a point in time where internet access
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    is generally assumed among a population.
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    Just before I started speaking, Joe asked the question
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    how many of you were moving services online that
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    were solely going to be online, and many of you raised your hands.
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    Well, you're not alone out there.
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    The federal governments and local governments are doing the same thing.
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    They are shutting down services that previously were only available
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    in an offline circumstance, whether it was at a store-front of some kind
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    like a post office, or through a telephone number, or through mail-order
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    and moving those services to the internet.
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    And across society we're seeing this happen.
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    In schools there's more pressure for students to have internet access and internet skills
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    because a lot of the assignments they're getting are going to require internet access.
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    In fact, the state of Michigan is just getting ready to
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    implement a new part of its curriculum.
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    In order to graduate from high school in Michigan,
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    you're going to have to have completed at least one online activity of some sort...
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    an online research project, or something to that effect.
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    And that makes sense in a world where 100% of all households are online and are internet literate,
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    but how do you enforce things like that when you have communities that are not online?
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    It's a real challenge. But since we're not discussing the digital divide
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    as a major national policy issue, we're just assuming that everyone's online
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    or if they really wanted to they could get online, so maybe we could just strong-arm everyone to do it
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    by moving these services to the internet and somehow that will solve the problem.
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    A big part of the problem from my perspective at least is the content aspect of the digital divide.
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    There's a group here based in California called the Children's Partnership
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    who came out with a seminal report on content and the digital divide about six years ago.
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    And they took a look at low-income and minority communities
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    to see what their content needs were and how they were accessing it,
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    and whether they were getting what they needed.
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    And they found four things that were lacking.
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    Populations were having a hard time finding content that was locally-relevant,
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    culturally relevant, linguistically relevant, and appropriate for their particular literacy levels.
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    And I think these four factors still hold true today in many ways,
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    but I would add a fifth point to that list...is that you also have to discuss
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    content and its accessibility for people with disabilities.
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    Nearly half of all Americans at some point in their lives
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    will experience a chronic disability, and if you have motor skill impairments,
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    or have hearing impairments, or in particular visual impairments,
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    the internet can be a very very daunting place, and we don't always address that.
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