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Why democracy matters

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    So little Billy goes to school,
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    and he sits down and the teacher says,
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    "What does your father do?"
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    And little Billy says, "My father plays the piano
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    in an opium den."
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    So the teacher rings up the parents, and says,
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    "Very shocking story from little Billy today.
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    Just heard that he claimed that you play the piano
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    in an opium den."
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    And the father says, "I'm very sorry. Yes, it's true, I lied.
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    But how can I tell an eight-year-old boy
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    that his father is a politician?" (Laughter)
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    Now, as a politician myself, standing in front of you,
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    or indeed, meeting any stranger anywhere in the world,
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    when I eventually reveal the nature of my profession,
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    they look at me as though I'm somewhere between
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    a snake, a monkey and an iguana,
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    and through all of this, I feel, strongly,
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    that something is going wrong.
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    Four hundred years of maturing democracy,
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    colleagues in Parliament who seem to me, as individuals,
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    reasonably impressive, an increasingly educated,
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    energetic, informed population, and yet
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    a deep, deep sense of disappointment.
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    My colleagues in Parliament include, in my new intake,
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    family doctors, businesspeople, professors,
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    distinguished economists, historians, writers,
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    army officers ranging from colonels down to regimental sergeant majors.
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    All of them, however, including myself, as we walk underneath
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    those strange stone gargoyles just down the road,
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    feel that we've become less than the sum of our parts,
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    feel as though we have become profoundly diminished.
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    And this isn't just a problem in Britain.
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    It's a problem across the developing world,
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    and in middle income countries too. In Jamaica,
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    for example -- look at Jamaican members of Parliament,
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    you meet them, and they're often people who are
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    Rhodes Scholars, who've studied at Harvard or at Princeton,
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    and yet, you go down to downtown Kingston,
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    and you are looking at one of the most depressing sites
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    that you can see in any middle-income country in the world:
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    a dismal, depressing landscape
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    of burnt and half-abandoned buildings.
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    And this has been true for 30 years, and the handover
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    in 1979, 1980, between one Jamaican leader who was
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    the son of a Rhodes Scholar and a Q.C. to another
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    who'd done an economics doctorate at Harvard,
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    over 800 people were killed in the streets
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    in drug-related violence.
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    Ten years ago, however, the promise of democracy
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    seemed to be extraordinary. George W. Bush stood up
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    in his State of the Union address in 2003
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    and said that democracy was the force that would beat
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    most of the ills of the world. He said,
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    because democratic governments respect their own people
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    and respect their neighbors, freedom will bring peace.
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    Distinguished academics at the same time argued that
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    democracies had this incredible range of side benefits.
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    They would bring prosperity, security,
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    overcome sectarian violence,
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    ensure that states would never again harbor terrorists.
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    Since then, what's happened?
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    Well, what we've seen is the creation, in places like Iraq
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    and Afghanistan, of democratic systems of government
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    which haven't had any of those side benefits.
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    In Afghanistan, for example, we haven't just had one election
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    or two elections. We've gone through three elections,
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    presidential and parliamentary. And what do we find?
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    Do we find a flourishing civil society, a vigorous rule of law
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    and good security? No. What we find in Afghanistan
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    is a judiciary that is weak and corrupt,
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    a very limited civil society which is largely ineffective,
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    a media which is beginning to get onto its feet
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    but a government that's deeply unpopular,
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    perceived as being deeply corrupt, and security
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    that is shocking, security that's terrible.
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    In Pakistan, in lots of sub-Saharan Africa,
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    again you can see democracy and elections are compatible
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    with corrupt governments, with states that are unstable
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    and dangerous.
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    And when I have conversations with people, I remember
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    having a conversation, for example, in Iraq,
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    with a community that asked me
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    whether the riot we were seeing in front of us,
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    this was a huge mob ransacking a provincial council building,
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    was a sign of the new democracy.
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    The same, I felt, was true in almost every single one
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    of the middle and developing countries that I went to,
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    and to some extent the same is true of us.
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    Well, what is the answer to this? Is the answer to just
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    give up on the idea of democracy?
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    Well, obviously not. It would be absurd
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    if we were to engage again in the kind of operations
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    we were engaged in, in Iraq and Afghanistan
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    if we were to suddenly find ourselves in a situation
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    in which we were imposing
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    anything other than a democratic system.
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    Anything else would run contrary to our values,
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    it would run contrary to the wishes of the people
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    on the ground, it would run contrary to our interests.
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    I remember in Iraq, for example, that we went through
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    a period of feeling that we should delay democracy.
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    We went through a period of feeling that the lesson learned
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    from Bosnia was that elections held too early
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    enshrined sectarian violence, enshrined extremist parties,
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    so in Iraq in 2003 the decision was made,
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    let's not have elections for two years. Let's invest in
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    voter education. Let's invest in democratization.
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    The result was that I found stuck outside my office
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    a huge crowd of people, this is actually a photograph
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    taken in Libya but I saw the same scene in Iraq
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    of people standing outside screaming for the elections,
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    and when I went out and said, "What is wrong
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    with the interim provincial council?
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    What is wrong with the people that we have chosen?
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    There is a Sunni sheikh, there's a Shiite sheikh,
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    there's the seven -- leaders of the seven major tribes,
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    there's a Christian, there's a Sabian,
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    there are female representatives, there's every political party in this council,
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    what's wrong with the people that we chose?"
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    The answer came, "The problem isn't the people
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    that you chose. The problem is that you chose them."
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    I have not met, in Afghanistan, in even the most
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    remote community, anybody who does not want
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    a say in who governs them.
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    Most remote community, I have never met a villager
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    who does not want a vote.
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    So we need to acknowledge
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    that despite the dubious statistics, despite the fact that
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    84 percent of people in Britain feel politics is broken,
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    despite the fact that when I was in Iraq, we did an opinion poll
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    in 2003 and asked people what political systems they preferred,
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    and the answer came back that
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    seven percent wanted the United States,
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    five percent wanted France,
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    three percent wanted Britain,
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    and nearly 40 percent wanted Dubai, which is, after all,
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    not a democratic state at all but a relatively prosperous
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    minor monarchy, democracy is a thing of value
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    for which we should be fighting. But in order to do so
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    we need to get away from instrumental arguments.
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    We need to get away from saying democracy matters
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    because of the other things it brings.
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    We need to get away from feeling, in the same way,
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    human rights matters because of the other things it brings,
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    or women's rights matters for the other things it brings.
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    Why should we get away from those arguments?
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    Because they're very dangerous. If we set about saying,
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    for example, torture is wrong because it doesn't extract
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    good information, or we say, you need women's rights
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    because it stimulates economic growth by doubling the size of the work force,
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    you leave yourself open to the position where
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    the government of North Korea can turn around and say,
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    "Well actually, we're having a lot of success extracting
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    good information with our torture at the moment,"
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    or the government of Saudi Arabia to say, "Well,
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    our economic growth's okay, thank you very much,
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    considerably better than yours,
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    so maybe we don't need to go ahead with this program on women's rights."
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    The point about democracy is not instrumental.
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    It's not about the things that it brings.
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    The point about democracy is not that it delivers
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    legitimate, effective, prosperous rule of law.
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    It's not that it guarantees peace with itself or with its neighbors.
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    The point about democracy is intrinsic.
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    Democracy matters because it reflects an idea of equality
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    and an idea of liberty. It reflects an idea of dignity,
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    the dignity of the individual, the idea that each individual
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    should have an equal vote, an equal say,
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    in the formation of their government.
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    But if we're really to make democracy vigorous again,
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    if we're ready to revivify it, we need to get involved
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    in a new project of the citizens and the politicians.
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    Democracy is not simply a question of structures.
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    It is a state of mind. It is an activity.
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    And part of that activity is honesty.
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    After I speak to you today, I'm going on a radio program
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    called "Any Questions," and the thing you will have noticed
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    about politicians on these kinds of radio programs
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    is that they never, ever say that they don't know the answer
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    to a question. It doesn't matter what it is.
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    If you ask about child tax credits, the future of the penguins
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    in the south Antarctic, asked to hold forth on whether or not
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    the developments in Chongqing contribute
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    to sustainable development in carbon capture,
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    and we will have an answer for you.
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    We need to stop that, to stop pretending to be
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    omniscient beings.
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    Politicians also need to learn, occasionally, to say that
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    certain things that voters want, certain things that voters
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    have been promised, may be things
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    that we cannot deliver
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    or perhaps that we feel we should not deliver.
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    And the second thing we should do is understand
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    the genius of our societies.
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    Our societies have never been so educated, have never
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    been so energized, have never been so healthy,
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    have never known so much, cared so much,
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    or wanted to do so much, and it is a genius of the local.
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    One of the reasons why we're moving away
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    from banqueting halls such as the one in which we stand,
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    banqueting halls with extraordinary images on the ceiling
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    of kings enthroned,
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    the entire drama played out here on this space,
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    where the King of England had his head lopped off,
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    why we've moved from spaces like this, thrones like that,
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    towards the town hall, is we're moving more and more
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    towards the energies of our people, and we need to tap that.
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    That can mean different things in different countries.
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    In Britain, it could mean looking to the French,
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    learning from the French,
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    getting directly elected mayors in place
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    in a French commune system.
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    In Afghanistan, it could have meant instead of concentrating
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    on the big presidential and parliamentary elections,
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    we should have done what was in the Afghan constitution
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    from the very beginning, which is to get direct local elections going
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    at a district level and elect people's provincial governors.
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    But for any of these things to work,
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    the honesty in language, the local democracy,
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    it's not just a question of what politicians do.
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    It's a question of what the citizens do.
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    For politicians to be honest, the public needs to allow them to be honest,
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    and the media, which mediates between the politicians
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    and the public, needs to allow those politicians to be honest.
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    If local democracy is to flourish, it is about the active
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    and informed engagement of every citizen.
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    In other words, if democracy is to be rebuilt,
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    is to become again vigorous and vibrant,
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    it is necessary not just for the public
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    to learn to trust their politicians,
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    but for the politicians to learn to trust the public.
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    Thank you very much indeed. (Applause)
Title:
Why democracy matters
Speaker:
Rory Stewart
Description:

The public is losing faith in democracy, says British MP Rory Stewart. Iraq and Afghanistan’s new democracies are deeply corrupt; meanwhile, 84 percent of people in Britain say politics is broken. In this important talk, Stewart sounds a call to action to rebuild democracy, starting with recognizing why democracy is important -- not as a tool, but as an ideal.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
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TEDTalks
Duration:
13:41
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